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Dealing with dog poop
By Green Living Tips | Published  11/23/2006 | water , pets , garden
Dog poop - smelly, unsightly and damaging

Imagine how many tonnes of dog poo winds up being improperly disposed of each year. It certainly would be millions.

Until recently, dog poop wasn't considered a huge biological hazard, except for in rare cases causing a disease called Toxicarias.

Scientists are now reconsidering that notion after having made disturbing discoveries such as bacteria levels being so high at some beaches that people have to stay out of the water. One of the culprits that has been found to significantly raise the bacteria levels is dog poop.

It's not just from the nuggets on the beaches, but runoff from stormwater drains after that water has come into contact with the poop. Some of the bacteria harbored in dog poo includes E. coli, fecal coliform bacteria, salmonella and giardia.

Other than that, dog poo is just plain gross and pollutes our parks and sidewalks.

Some people put dog poop into their worm farms, which works fine, although it's not recommended that you then use the worm castings from the farm in your vegetable garden. General composting is also an option, but again, the compost shouldn't be applied to your veggie patch.

The doggy loo

The other alternative aside from burying it in your garden or dumping dog poop into your bin is to consider installing a dog toilet, aka a doggy loo. These are special buckets with holes in the bottom you place into the ground on a bed of stones and then add an enzyme to which will break down the poop. When the bucket is full, you simply pour water into it and the broken down materials will flush away. There's no risk to your plants, you can have the bucket hidden away in your garden.

You can buy a doggy loo already made up or create one yourself for just a few dollars using these very simple instructions. If you can't find the septic treatment starter they recommend on the page, even active enzyme drain cleaner will do - it  just consists of the "good" bacteria needed and is available at just about any hardware store. If you get the pellets, I'd recommend about a teaspoon dissolved in a cup of water thrown in every month or so to keep the bacteria colony fresh.

When walking your dog..

Most of us have seen it happen, somebody walking their dog and Fido decides to take a dump - and the owner doesn't clean up afterwards. More responsible folk carry plastic bags with them, which is great - but unfortunately standard plastic bags aren't all that earth friendly and take years to break down.

There are now biodegradable/degradable bags on the market designed just for this purpose. Animal Management Services produces two types of 100% degradable dog waste bags that break down when subjected to light, heat and or moisture. These are somewhat different to biodegradable bags that rely on living micro-organisms to break down.

According to Evan from AMS who was kind enough to provide me with some added info, their GREEN bag is starch based and will break down in landfill in approx 90 days. Their BLACK bag (pictured above) is produced with EPI additive. When exposed to sunlight or heat the additive triggers a two step degradation process, in which the plastic breaks down through oxidation into small fragments, which then biodegrade into the natural elements of carbon dioxide, water, biomass and minerals. The degrading process for the black bag is approximately one year.

I forgot to ask Evan, but I'm assuming that the black bag, like most other many other plastics, is petrochemical based - so their green bag would be the one considered by many as being the more environmentally friendly option. It's a little difficult to accurately say which is more "green" as even starch based plastics require petrochemicals along the way - plus herbicides, pesticides and other chemicals in the manufacturing process. It's a complex area and one I'm still learning more about; but either option is still far better than a standard plastic bag.

While Animal Management Services supplies only to the Australian market, there are similar products available in just about every country now. If you're having problems locating these doggy-doo bags, also check out your local supermarket as a range of degradable/biodegradable plastic bags are now quite common in larger stores; but are just being sold for general use rather than dog waste specific.

 Another interesting product is SkooperBox:

Made from 100% recycled paper, the box is flat to begin with and using the special leash clip, very convenient. When your dog does its bit whilst out on the walk, pop open the box, scoop up the poop, close the box and hang back on the leash clip ready for disposal. You can learn more about SkooperBox here (USA) and here (Australia)

Do you have other earth friendly ideas for dealing with dog poop? Please add your tips below; plus resources for biodegradable/degradable dog waste bags - I get a lot of questions from readers in various parts of the world looking for places to buy these!


 
Michael Bloch
Green Living Tips.com
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  • Comment #1 (Posted by Gayle Fleming)

    Re: Dog Poop. I am so conflicted on this. When I walk my dog in my neighborhood and he poops on the common area grass or in someone's yard, I pick it up in a plastic bag which is what most people do. However, the number of plastic bags in landfills is also a hazard. My dog is small-only 20 lbs. In back of my condo there is an area of grass that is not used or walked on by anyone. So I don't always pick up the poop in order to save plastic bags. I have considered using paper towels since it's not as much as big dogs. Any thoughts?
     
  • Comment #2 (Posted by Michael (Green Living Tips))

    Gayle, perhaps something like oxo-biodegradable bags might be suitable? EcoSafe Plastics offers a dog poop bag solution.

    http://usa.ecosafeplastics.com/qs/product/46/2772/145381/0/0

    .. they aren't cheap; so it may be worthwhile hunting around. They are still petroleum based, but break down much faster into non-toxic elements according to the company. The other option would be to search for hydro-biodegradable bags - these are usually made from plant starch.
     
  • Comment #3 (Posted by Joanne)

    I also had a problem abut cleaning up after my dog for a few years. I used plastic bags before or the dog waste bags I bought at Petsmart. It was only year ago I saw eco friendly dog poop bags being produced by two companies. One is called Bio Dog Waste Bags, it is biodegrable and the bag material is made from corn. Since it is difficult to find. I had to go to a Organic Supermarket jsut to buy it.
     
  • Comment #4 (Posted by Michael - Green Living Tips)

    Joanne, thanks for the recommendation - I'm guessing this is the product you're referring to: http://www.biogroupusa.com/Consumer.htm (slight variation on name)
     
  • Comment #5 (Posted by Ericka Billue)

    I try to use paper bags whenever possible. I regularly purchase brown paper lunch bags in large quantites. It makes them more cost effective. Also, always request paper bags any where that I have the option. REstaurants have nifty little bags and the local health food or grocery store, especially.
     
  • Comment #6 (Posted by Imelda O. Suzara)

    Mini Dustpan with Broom

    I would buy one from a dollar store and bring it with me while walking a dog and if it poops on a sidewalk, I would just scoop it up with the mini broom and dustpan and find a big tree with soil, or a flower bed, and scoop it out to the soil where the poop can be fertilizer. The municipal bylaws says no dog poop on sidewalks, but I'm sure it's okay to put it to the soil, as long as it's not in a vegetable patch where its bacteria may infect edible crops.
     
  • Comment #7 (Posted by Gayle Fleming)

    Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I will definitely check out the bio waste bags. One thing I've started to do is train my dog to poop in one area away from walkways or places where people could step in it. Then I clean it up about every three days. So it's a few less bags. This works in the morning and not as well in the afternoon when we go for a long walk. I appreciate the thoughtful answers
     
  • Comment #8 (Posted by Michael - Green Living Tips)

    Thanks for your contributions Imelda and Ericka!
     
  • Comment #9 (Posted by Lynn Marquardt)

    After reading your article, I Googled "dog toilet, aka a doggy loo".
    There are commercial ones, but here's a site that shows how to make a dog septic system in your back yard.
    http://homepage.mac.com/cityfarmer/PhotoAlbum22.html
    It's going on my to-do list.
    Thanks for your article.

     
  • Comment #10 (Posted by Michael - Green Living Tips)

    That's a great guide Lynn - thanks!
     
  • Comment #11 (Posted by Cam)

    Question...actually, this question relates to a lot of topics on this site. I'm more than willing to pay more for eco-friendly products, but often the only way for me to buy these products is online, so the shipment of my order, with its packaging and fuel, isn't terribly ecofriendly. Which is better: buying the ecofriendly products or walking to my grocery store and buying what I can find there?
     
  • Comment #12 (Posted by Michael - Green Living Tips)

    That's a really good question Cam - totally see your point. It's hard to make an apples to apples comparison as it really depends upon a product - but as for the miles the product travels; the real world store product likely needs to travel as well - then you need to travel to get to it. The packaging is a good point, but hopefully most eco-savvy online stores bear that in mind in the types of packaging they use.
     
  • Comment #13 (Posted by Michael Cozens)

    I've heard that San Francisco has begun a program where special dog-poop collection bins are placed in public areas, along with biodegradable-bag dispensers. The collected poo will then be used as a fuel for power generation.

    As for the concern with using compost on vegetable gardens, I'm fairly certain that the danger is not bacteria "infecting" plants (the species barrier and the plant's own immune system would prevent this), but with bacteria being deposited on the surface of leaves and then consumed. I would think that the standard good washing for produce before consumption would take care of that.

    If anyone knows differently, please, do tell.
     
  • Comment #14 (Posted by Michael - Green Living Tips)

    Hi Michael - good point. Dog poop can be applied to fruit trees etc, but it's just not recommended to allow contact with root and leaf vegetables. The same sort of guidelines apply for a black water recycling system (which we have). I wouldn't be comfortable with just washing the vegetables; at the very least I think they should be washed and cooked thoroughly.

    It's great to see places like San Francisco making use of this waste. I was pleasantly surprised a couple of weeks ago to see a small outback town providing poop bags in their park, along with a bin for disposal.
     
  • Comment #15 (Posted by Peter)

    I like most people love our pets but hates to pick up the after them.I find it humiliating to walk around carrying a plastic bag with dog poop in it. Recently I purchase a swoop. This is a new product from Austrailia that bags dog poop at the touch of a button. The swoop has iconic claws that mimic the human hand and span and conceals the dog poop inside discreeetly. You can get more info. at www.thepetloo.us
     
  • Comment #16 (Posted by kimbo)

    thankyou for inspiring me to now put pen to paper and put forward a campaign, perhaps to 10downing street, regarding the implementation of dog poo bins, to be embedded in all council maintained public green spaces, perhaps next to ordinary public bins, to encourage people to use them...for it is truly the only footprint solution !
     
  • Comment #17 (Posted by Suzanne )

    Doggy poo. We have doggy poo collection containers in the parks specifially where dogs are allowed, to play and socialize.(off leash, too)
    I have seen lots about dog poo disposal, how about cat? any ideas?

     
  • Comment #18 (Posted by L. C. )

    After reading the article on dealing with dog poop, I thought about it for a while and wondered how to best lessen my impact on the environment without all of those plastic sandwhich baggies or large plastic bags.

    We have two small "poop-machines". When I let them outside each day, they use the same area. I've decided the best place for the waste is in the toilet. I had an old small plastic storage bin lying around, so I decided to collect some of the dried poop and dump it down the toilet. It worked like a charm. The doggie area is a little ways away from the house and we have a big yard, so I can usually let it collect for a bit before disposing of it. The tip to remember with this to only flush a little at a time or your toilet will back up. You can also go outside with your dog and scoop it up an dump it in the toilet as soon as they go if you need to immediately clean up after them.

    I used to collect the poop in a garbage bag and then throw it out in the trash but I like disposing of it down the toilet better. The septic might have to be emptied a little bit sooner now, but I am satisfied because I am no longer adding extra waste to the environment. I am just adding it to where the human waste goes.

    I purchased a bunch of small paper lunch bags to use when we go on a walk in case one of little ones has to go. I can collect it in the paper bag and throw it a trash recepticle, feeling good knowing that the paper bag is biodegradeable.
     
  • Comment #19 (Posted by Brian)

    It is amazing how many pet owners don't pick up after their dog. This is a huge national problem that many people are not aware of. We sell more "no dog pooping signs" than actual dog signs. Pet owners should always remember, "If your dog poops, please scoop".

    http://www.signswithanattitude.com
     
  • Comment #20 (Posted by Joanne Hallis)

    My dogs are trained to go potty in only one area of my yard. I am however not able to grow grass in that area. And the lilac bushes that are on one side of the spot are looking rather peekeed. Any ideas why?
     
  • Comment #21 (Posted by Michael - Green Living Tips)

    Hi Joanne, as urine is high in salts, it's likely due to too much salt and perhaps an overload of nutrients and other chemicals in the soil.
     
  • Comment #22 (Posted by Elsa)

    I also wondered about the proper way to dispose of cat poo, since they say you can't throw or flush it because that can increase the risk of Toxoplasmosis (http://www.naturesearth.com/news/) getting into ground and waste waters, and composting isn't ideal due to that and other bacteria. Is it possible to put it in the homemade septic system also? I have 1 small dog (15 lbs), 1 large dog (87 lbs) and 4 cats, so I'm always interested in finding a more eco-friendly way of caring for them and cleaning up after them, as they make a lot of messes :) I've already switched to feline pine litter because it's all natural and compostable, but this septic system sounds like it might be the best way to dispose of the actual "clumps" shall we say. Is that true?
     
  • Comment #23 (Posted by stephanie)

    About the pooping problem-There are worm compost bins available for dog poop and cat poop-as long as the cat litter is made from wheat, newspaper, or other materials that breaks down. You can purchase manure worms that eats the poop and then make rich castings for you garden! (It's called vermicomposting-check it out online!) About the plastic bag from groceries situation, I always use the bags for my cat litter. I think it's more environmentally friendly to reuse those bags instead of throwing them away! I assume that those eco bags are recycled materials? What about the energy used to recycle them? Sometimes, I think we get very single track minded to "go green" but to think about the lesser two evil!
     
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